.....Or the Battle that never was
The Rejects got together on Sunday for our first War of the Roses game since 2011!!
Richard, BigLee and myself were the Yorkists, on the right, while John, Ian and Surj were the Lancastrians on the left.
Order of Battle
Yorkists
The 3 Dicks
Richard Duke of York (Rich)
1.Dismounted Men at Arms
2.Retinue Billmen
3.Retinue Billmen
4.Shire Billmen
5.Retinue Archers
6.Light gun
Richard Earl of Warwick (BigLee)
7.Dismounted Men at Arms
8.German Pikemen
9.Shire Billmen
10.Retinue Archers
11.Light Gun
Richard Earl of Salisbury (Me)
12.Mounted Men at Arms
13.Retinue Billmen
14.Shire Billmen
15.Shire Archers
16.German Handgunners
17.Light Gun
Lancastrian
HenryVI (John)
1.Dismounted Men at Arms
2.Retinue Billmen
3.Retinue Billmen
4.Shire Billmen
5.Retinue Archers
Duke of Somerset (Ian)
6.Dismounted Men at Arms
7.Retinue Billmen
8.Shire Billmen
9.Retinue Archers
10.Light Gun
Earl of Wiltshire (Surj)
11.Mounted Men at Arms
12.Retinue Billmen
13.Shire Billmen
14.Shire Archers
15.French Crossbowmen
16.Light Gun
Sir Andrew Trollope (Turncoat)
A.Men at Arms
B.Shire Billmen
C.Retinue Archers
Unknowingly (Postie kept it a secret) we were fighting a battle that should have been fought in October 1459, but Richard Duke of York thought better of the situation and buggered off very quickly first to Wales and then to Ireland...........perhaps we should have done the same????
The Yorkist line
Postie placed a river across the centre of the table, which was going to make it hard work for both sides. We decided to take the bull by the horns and try and get across the river, all along our lines.
We weren't to know but Trollope's men on the hill far left had already defected our side and chosen the Red Rose
My Men at Arms
and Shire Bill
Rich changed formation with his Dismounted Men at Arms ready to charge across the bridge.
We all had to throw a D20 at the start of the game.Ian threw a 1. Nobody but Ian knew the result, but in the first turn all his troops moved back a full move!!
After the game we found out it was a Treason Roll, Ian very nearly changed sides at the start of the game!!!!
Richard, Duke of York and Bannerman
Trollope sitting on the hill.....waiting??
We got to the river first, both sides lost many casualties to missile fire.
We took a chance with the troops on the hill, hoping they were on our side, but we just had that horrible feeling they weren't?
Concentrated fire destroyed Lee's archer unit that were on the left of the Pikemen.
Things weren't looking too bad....
Richard and me entered troops in to the river, it was a little confusing??
It would take us 2 turns to cross the river, the first move would leave us in the centre, the next move just the other side. But we were not allowed to charge out of the river....but John moved right up to the river edge, which meant we could no longer advance??
Postie reminded John of his orders and force-moved the Lancastrians to charge us in the river.
Hmmm? there's a nice gap there??
Come on Dickie!!
Richard moved his other Billmen unit in to the river as he was not allowed to charge into the river.
Rich makes contact with John's Men at Arms waiting on the other side of the bridge.
I had already taken a few potshot at Ian's troops with my gun when........
BOOM!!!!
The gun misfired and blew up killing all the crew!!
They were close but we lost all melee's, and were pushed back across the river.
Meanwhile to the left of the bridge, we had a disastrous turn, the Lancastrians slaughtered 2 units with missile fire, including archer fire from the now reveled enemy Trollope, leaving us in a hopeless situation, with our left flank in tatters, we left the field.
Well done chaps!
cough!
Conclusion
This was a difficult game, they knew that Trollopes troops were their's from the start, we didn't. If we'd known we probably wouldn't have attacked, but that was the nature of the game. That's why York never fought the battle!!
Only 1 gripe about the rules, Postie needs to sort the crossing river rules out, (and it'd help if he would tell me I can't fire with an archer unit while crossing the river, before I do it!!)
Nice AAR Ray - shame about the loss :)
ReplyDeleteYeh you win some lose some??
DeleteOh ho ho, lovely. No time to read now but will come back :)
ReplyDeleteNo probs.
DeleteLooks great. What rules were used for this battle? Thanks.
ReplyDeleteHi Clay, they're a set of homebrew rules loosly based on WAB.
DeleteFabulous looking game, Ray. WotR being a favorite period for me makes it all the more pleasing.
ReplyDeleteI thought you'd like the game Dean!
DeleteGlad ya'll got together. Did anyone bring any baked goods? Because I don't see any pictures.
ReplyDeletePostie made the sarnies,cheese and pickle, soam and pickle and egg mayo....nom nom!
DeleteIs a sarnie and sardine?
DeleteNope, sarnies is slang for sandwiches.
DeleteNice looking game and a great AAR... nice to see you guys playing a proper period for once. ;-)
ReplyDeleteIt was about time we played some medieval, 5 years is a long enough wait.
DeleteGreat looking WoTR game Ray!
ReplyDeleteThanks Cyrus.
DeleteNice write up of a disappointing game. I'll post mine later in the week but I haven't got much more to add.
ReplyDeleteNuff said!
DeleteRich and I are looking for a project perhaps we'll take on the WotR the figs are lovely and it's a great period of history. Nice battle!
ReplyDeleteIts the least hassle of all the medieval periods to paint up....no heraldry!
Deletegreat looking game and an entertaining BatRep as ever Ray!
ReplyDeleteGlad you enjoyed it Sander.
DeleteGreat report and very nice looking game!
ReplyDeleteCheers Rodger.
DeleteFirst in five years? That's a long time. Hope the crossing the river rule is sorted out by the next game.
ReplyDeleteLets hope so Alex??
DeleteAlways interested in this what if scenario. If you ever find yourself in Ludlow there's an excellent pub on Ludford Bridge, it was also the site of Parliamentary artillery positions during a civil war siege
ReplyDeleteIntetesting?? I'll suggest it to the mrs......not sure she'll like it though??
DeleteWhat a Trollope!
ReplyDeleteWhat, Postie???
DeleteAwesome pictures, fantastic armies...Absolutly wonderful Ray!
ReplyDeleteThanks Phil, glad you like them.
DeleteOutstanding miniatures, can´t get enough of these!!! thanks for sharing!
ReplyDeleteGlad yuo enjoyed the post.
DeleteNice report what a fantastic looking game though!
ReplyDeleteCheers Simon!
DeleteNice looking game Ray. It's a shame your cannon went boom!
ReplyDeleteIt was, thing was I just knew it would!
DeleteDid Postie grow up running the paranoia game. He seems to want to get you killed every battle
ReplyDeleteSimple answer.......Yes!
DeleteSpectacular game Ray and there is always next time!
ReplyDeleteLets hope the next time IS the next time.
DeleteInteresting game. Thanks, Ray
ReplyDeleteCheers!
DeleteNice write up of a disappointing game. I'll post mine later in the week but I haven't got much more to add.
ReplyDeleteYou said that 12 hours ago!
DeleteYou said that 12 hours ago!
DeleteI very nearly made this game! What a shame it looks great.
ReplyDeleteAs for wins and losses, well if the treason roll had been very slightly different it would have changed the game entirely
Yep, probably would have upset the Lancs men though.
DeleteI was very pleasantly surprised that this wasn't a War of the Rings scenario as I'd originally thought,. Good bat-rep, but another one where you appear to have been stitched up. One day Ray, one day...
ReplyDeleteYep! Done up like a kipper again!!!!
DeleteExcellent as ever
ReplyDeleteCheers Sgt
DeleteGreat looking game and AAR Ray and better luck next time!
ReplyDeleteChristopher
I think I need that luck Chris!
DeleteLovely looking game (as usual). I think you should have a t-shirt with "Come on Dickie!!" printed on it for the next game, hopefully we won't have to wait five years.
ReplyDeleteI'll probabley be on the other side next time?!
DeleteAn epic-looking game!
ReplyDeleteThanus Chris!
DeleteExcellent report Ray, cracking looking troops!
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