Friday 23 March 2012

RP No 61 FIW Civilians



I know, I know,  more of what Ray's just painted!!!!!!! Fran said its getting boring now, 
I explained that he was just sore that I kicked his ginger butt, in the Analouge Painting Challenge, he he!!

 Talking of the Challenge, today's post is another catch up of some figures I entered in early March, here.

There's not a real lot I can write about these figures as they're all Civilians for either side during the French Indian War. In the first photo above we have the little children.

The ladies.
Mainly Frei Corps figures, some unknown ebay jobbies.

 Ladies with babies

 Sad really but I'm not sure how to write this, just encase I offend someone, but here goes,
Negro slaves?

 More ladies, one with a gun!!

 Men about town
A mixture of Frei Corps, Peter Pig and Hallmark


The Town Mayor, in his brand new coat. 

 Armed Civilians

 A close up, all figures here are Frei Corps

So are these!!

All the towns folk together!

33 comments:

  1. All have a lot of character! Well done indeed. And you could just have written slaves. At that time slaves was synonymous with dark skinned persons. Time has changed a bit for the better.

    You should try to have a battle where a small group tried to fend of the attackers and had to protect a small village or hamlet untill help arrived.

    (Oh and on another note, check my blog mate, it is Gravesend!)

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    1. Yep, that's the kind of thing I plan to do.

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  2. Those civilians are great! They will make a very nice effect on a table! Nice work.

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  3. Just what is needed on the table. Very nice work on these guys Ray.

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  4. Can not help it... the 2nd mini from the right in the top photo looks like Elvis!

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  5. Great job on those. Now you have inhabitants for all of those lonesome homesteads that need to be defended.

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  6. There are smashing mate, just cant believe that they are 15s.

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  7. That's amazing -- I don't know how you manage to get so much painting done. They look great!

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  8. Looks good mate.. civies usually get neglected in order for the main forces to get done up.. good on you to get them done.. more so for the points they provided you also in the competition :)

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  9. Wow, These are very nicely adorned, Ray. When do you find the time to work? Hope the majority of these sweet people don't get scalped.

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  10. Nice to see the range of civilians.

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  11. I like these ladies Ray and it's nice to see these colors being used. Now it's time for you to put down the paintbrush and take the weekend off. Have a good one!

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  12. I don't know why someone would be offended by the negro slaves, that's something common for that era, it's the very same history you reenact. What I really want to know is how the kids and ladies with babies would be used in a war game.. they're just there? Do you have to make the brutal decision to sacrifice them at times like many a dictator has? Would it sink points in some way, shape or form, so that it feels just as hard to do as it would in real life, with morals and all? I feel it might be able to add a twist that I might enjoy.

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    1. It's a funny politically correct world we live in??? As for using them in a game, there was a raid on a Christian Indian village called St Francis, in 1759, that's the kind of thing I want to rein-act, in both an Indian and American village.

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  13. You certainly did churn out a huge variety of different miniatures. These look great too, a wonderful assortment.

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  14. very nice. Civilians really add a lot to the gaming table.

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  15. Great stuff Ray and with all the stuff you entered in the competition your back log should keep you posting for quite some time!

    Christopher

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  16. Lovely paint job and the icing on the cake for your FIW collection.

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  17. so many of them. they are all excellent

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  18. Whole load of models there, all looking very nice.

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  19. There are a lot that would work for other later periods as well. Nicely done.

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  20. The reason people take offense if they do is because their feelings are hurt, usually by attitudes and especially mocking or what they think another person finds funny that is not funny to them.

    If you think deeper about that, and even deeper again, it has a lot to do with quick impressions of attitudes, and how the person perceives the attitude, which can happen right away, such as when a bully is mocking you and what you thought were your friends are laughing too. The damage is done in one second, to feelings, emotions and egos, and it is hard to undo that kind of damage, like fixing a broken egg.

    It is unnecessary and stupid but it does happen every day, and it is not just about race relations.

    This post raises the potential of offense not just with the negro slaves thing but also the use of civilians in a game such as this. But it does not have to be bad, it can be good if handled well.

    A gamer getting into these areas would be well-advised to think ahead of time before getting caught up publicly such as at a show, wrong-footed. Before trying to explain be sure you read up and know what you're talking about, and be ready to learn from what comes back from the two-way street of discussion.

    There is a company called Multi_Man Publishing with a game on King Philip's War, 1675-1676 period in New England, that brought up some of this type controversy over the past year, and the game is on the shelves now for $44. There are some very contentious threads on the TMP forum about this and related matters, after the mainstream media picked up a report about the game outside the gaming community. The newspaper did not allow a two-way discussion, only what the reporter interpreted, without the designer's reactions or explanations.

    Professional historians get very contentious also, and a great example is to read some Francis Jennings and his tone when he is talking about Francis Parkman, which is almost all the time. These authors are the premier historians of the French and Indian Wars that went on for a century and more.

    Besides the TMP discussions among wargamers, and the books of the historians, there is also the feelings that this war evokes in Canada, to this day.

    This is not just a potential can of worms, there is a whole six-pack here of worm cans, if not handled with sensitivity and with a view to spark the discussion for educational purposes.

    What I think is that the figures once seen by a viewer will raise their curiosity and spark a discussion. That just happened to me 12 hours ago, with some German bombers to bomb London and some RAF Hurricanes and Spitfires to go up and stop them. A person who had never seen wargame items picked up a Hurricane and shot down the Heinkel, and crashed it into a row of Krupp and Henschel trucks in about ten seconds, so it can happen quickly. Those trucks were in Gravesend, by the way, thus London itself was saved.

    So being prepared for that ability of figures to spark a discussion, and not wishing to cause offense but to edify, there is a distasteful way and there is a tasteful way to handle delicate matters of sensibility. Too many gamers don't handle this very well but some do, and those who do have the best and most respectable presentations. This sort of thing came up when TAL put up ww2 civilians also, but the discussion is or can be healthy I think and sunlight is the best disinfectant.

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  21. Nice work Ray, they look good, have you marked the essay yet or what ?

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  22. ...cool work as always...do you ever have time off?

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  23. Great to see some not fighting figures. Very good paintjob!

    Greetings
    Peter
    http://peterscave.blogspot.com/

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